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There are several issues to consider in backpacking food: nutritional density, weight, spoilage, and time and fuel used in preparation. You want of course very light food that will cook instantly so you don’t waste fuel and time, be very nutritious so you do not have to carry much of it, and that will stay unspoiled un-refrigerated for the whole trip, which could be several days. Of course, you also want the food in light, reseal able and hermetic packaging. If you could have everything, you would also like it to be delicious and at a reasonable price. These last couple of points are where commercial pre-packaged freeze dried meals fail us.
I am posting 4 recipes that are suitable for long term trips – I have made the black bean mole tostadas on a 9-day trip, the pasta on a 5 day one, the others on 7 day trips.
I am going to hike the John Muir trail the last week of August and first week of September, we will need 16 dinners. I would appreciate some of your ideas too! (vegetarian if possible). OK, so here we go.....
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Pasta, mediterranean style
ingredients
2 packs of dried sun dried tomatoes (trader Joe no longer carries them but Whole foods does)
10 oz dried pasta, the chunky smaller ones work better like bow tie, spiral, rigatoni, etc. Of course, the quicker cooking will save on fuel, just make sure you like the consistency, I use regular Italian style pasta but it takes about 10 minutes to cook, so on a long backpack, substitute quick cooking or instant pasta to save fuel -
pine nuts (about 1/4 or 1/3 of a cup)
black oil cured olives (these will last a while with no refrigeration)
3 cloves of garlic, fresh
dried mushrooms, (can use the TJ wild mix or the dried shitake from Asian stores)
olive oil – the good stuff – extra-virgin cold-press low-acidity….
herbs of choice – you can use dried basil, oregano, I have used fresh rosemary too, just a tiny bit – get creative, experiment –
a little crushed red pepper (the pizza topping type) also goes well here – not necesarily mediterranean
salt
preparation
at home: Use one large zip lock bag and 3 small ones, that will go inside. To pack before leaving, take one of the packages of sun-dried tomato and put it in a coffee grinder to make a powder. This is the base for your tomato sauce. Add a little salt to it, and you can also add the dried herbs to it, put it in a small zip lock bag.
on another small zip lock bag, put the mushrooms and the other pack of sun dried tomatoes, cut into bite size chunks, cutting the tomatoes in half is good enough.
on yet another small zip lock, place the fresh unpeeled garlic, the pine nuts and the black olives, already pitted. Place the pasta in the large bag, and the small bags with their contents. Take a small bottle of olive oil too.
at camp: you will need a couple of pots for this, and a frying pan. Boil water, and place mushrooms and dried tomatoes in enough boiling water to cover, let it sit. Heat some olive oil in the frying pan, and add the peeled and chopped garlic, and the pine nuts, cook until slightly golden, add the powdered dried tomatoes, herbs, salt and water to make a paste. You might want to use the soaking water from the mushrooms and tomatoes to not waste any flavor. Add the contents of the other pan, and cover to let it get nice and soft. Add the black olives too. This is now the sauce and veggies for your pasta.
Start boiling a lot of water in the largest pot you have, add a little salt and olive oil just like at home, when it starts boiling add the pasta and cook until done. Draining it is tricky, do the best you can and you could always make the sauce thicker so if there is a little water left in with the pasta it will be saucy enough....
No just simply mix the cooked hot pasta with the sauce and serve.
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Laksa
(spicy Malaysian coconut stew)
ingredients
dried Shitake mushrooms, sliced
dried flat tofu sheets
black mushrooms, shredded
sun dried tomatoes, cut in ¼ pieces
cellophane noodles (one bundle will make quite a bit, for a large crowd, use 2)
wheat instant noodles of choice – same volume as cellophane
dried wasabi green peas
dried coconut cream or milk
Malaysian seasoning pack spice (see picture on web site)
preparation
at home: Place separate groups of ingredients in separate zip lock bags. If making Tom Yum, place paste in small container.
at camp: Boil water and cover first group of ingredients, let sit while preparing the broth. Mix coconut powder with small amount of water, add to more boiling water. Do the same with the seasoning mix. Taste and adjust amounts. Add soaked veggies and noodles. Allow it to return to boil and turn stove off. Cover and let it sit 3-5 minute. Serve.
variations:
tom yum
instead of dried coconut milk and Malaysian seasonings, use prepared tom yum base (see picture at web site) -
Place 3 cups of water per 2 tablespoons of tom yom and boil, then add soaked veggies, add noodles, cover for 3-5 minutes and serve.
Miso soup
instead of dried coconut milk and Malaysian seasonings, use light miso paste.
I also like to add fresh ginger to this, sautéed in a little oil. I start sautéing the ginger, add water, the rest of the ingredients, when softened add miso and turn heat off.
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Black bean-mole tostadas
ingredients
instant black bean flakes (whole foods sells them in bulk for about $ 4 a lb, which will feed a large crowd)
masa harina about 8 oz or prepared corn tortillas, fresh (for shorter b/p trips).
mole sauce, backpacking version
8 oz combination of black dried moles: poblanos, anchos, mulattos and negros
optional – chiles chipotles 2-3 this is going to give it a smoky taste but also HOT!!!
1 tablespoon cocoa
small amounts (1/2 tsp) cinnamon and ground cumin
2 garlic cloves
½ pack sun dried tomatoes
½ cup roasted almond slivers
a little salt
Olive oil for frying tortillas
preparation
at home:
Toast chiles in comal or cast iron skillet. Careful not to burn them, just toast them until they release the wonderful aroma. Grind them in coffee grinder along grind all mole ingredients (yes, add the garlic in with dry ingredients) it will make a coarse crumbly powder – put in zip lock bag. Pack dried instant black beans separately. Place either masa or corn tortillas in separate bags. Pack olive oil in separate bottle.
at camp:
Boil water and cover bean flakes, will thicken after it sits a few minutes. Add additional hot water if too thick. Add boiling water to mole powder until it makes a thick sauce, cover and let sit. Add additional water if too thick.
In separate skillet, heat prepared corn tortillas.
If making tortillas from scratch, add cold filtered water to masa until you have the right consistency. Form into tortillas by first making a 1 inch ball and then flattening it. Yes, this is tricky at camp (use a couple of extra zip lock bags). Fry the tortillas in skillet on both sides.
Now the tostadas are ready to assemble. Place black beans on tortillas and top with mole sauce
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Couscous with pistachios, scallions and apricots
ingredients
1/2 cup couscous
veggie instant broth of choice (to make 3/4 or 1 cup)
1/4 cup dried currants, soaked in
hot water for 15 minutes and drained or/and dried apricots
1/3 cup thinly sliced scallion
1/4 cup shelled pistachio nuts,
toasted lightly and chopped fine
1 tablespoon minced fresh parsley leaves
1-1/2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
a pinch of cinnamon
3 tablespoons olive oil
salt to taste
preparation
at home: fill small bottles of olive oil and lemon juice. Toast pistachios and place them with the couscous, along with the cinnamon and put in zip lock bag. Place currants and apricots in separate bag. Mince scallions and parsley very finely and blend with olive oil to make a paste – this will act to keep the herbs fresh – pack in small container or double zip lock bag. For a long trip, or if it gets hot, you might have to use dried herbs....or serve this the first night if you insist on fresh herbs.
at camp: heat broth and add a little of the olive oil, when it starts to boil add couscous. Take off heat and cover, let stand 5 minutes. Break up any lumps, add rest of the ingredients and toss.
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I am posting 4 recipes that are suitable for long term trips – I have made the black bean mole tostadas on a 9-day trip, the pasta on a 5 day one, the others on 7 day trips.
I am going to hike the John Muir trail the last week of August and first week of September, we will need 16 dinners. I would appreciate some of your ideas too! (vegetarian if possible). OK, so here we go.....
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Pasta, mediterranean style
ingredients
2 packs of dried sun dried tomatoes (trader Joe no longer carries them but Whole foods does)
10 oz dried pasta, the chunky smaller ones work better like bow tie, spiral, rigatoni, etc. Of course, the quicker cooking will save on fuel, just make sure you like the consistency, I use regular Italian style pasta but it takes about 10 minutes to cook, so on a long backpack, substitute quick cooking or instant pasta to save fuel -
pine nuts (about 1/4 or 1/3 of a cup)
black oil cured olives (these will last a while with no refrigeration)
3 cloves of garlic, fresh
dried mushrooms, (can use the TJ wild mix or the dried shitake from Asian stores)
olive oil – the good stuff – extra-virgin cold-press low-acidity….
herbs of choice – you can use dried basil, oregano, I have used fresh rosemary too, just a tiny bit – get creative, experiment –
a little crushed red pepper (the pizza topping type) also goes well here – not necesarily mediterranean
salt
preparation
at home: Use one large zip lock bag and 3 small ones, that will go inside. To pack before leaving, take one of the packages of sun-dried tomato and put it in a coffee grinder to make a powder. This is the base for your tomato sauce. Add a little salt to it, and you can also add the dried herbs to it, put it in a small zip lock bag.
on another small zip lock bag, put the mushrooms and the other pack of sun dried tomatoes, cut into bite size chunks, cutting the tomatoes in half is good enough.
on yet another small zip lock, place the fresh unpeeled garlic, the pine nuts and the black olives, already pitted. Place the pasta in the large bag, and the small bags with their contents. Take a small bottle of olive oil too.
at camp: you will need a couple of pots for this, and a frying pan. Boil water, and place mushrooms and dried tomatoes in enough boiling water to cover, let it sit. Heat some olive oil in the frying pan, and add the peeled and chopped garlic, and the pine nuts, cook until slightly golden, add the powdered dried tomatoes, herbs, salt and water to make a paste. You might want to use the soaking water from the mushrooms and tomatoes to not waste any flavor. Add the contents of the other pan, and cover to let it get nice and soft. Add the black olives too. This is now the sauce and veggies for your pasta.
Start boiling a lot of water in the largest pot you have, add a little salt and olive oil just like at home, when it starts boiling add the pasta and cook until done. Draining it is tricky, do the best you can and you could always make the sauce thicker so if there is a little water left in with the pasta it will be saucy enough....
No just simply mix the cooked hot pasta with the sauce and serve.
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Laksa
(spicy Malaysian coconut stew)
ingredients
dried Shitake mushrooms, sliced
dried flat tofu sheets
black mushrooms, shredded
sun dried tomatoes, cut in ¼ pieces
cellophane noodles (one bundle will make quite a bit, for a large crowd, use 2)
wheat instant noodles of choice – same volume as cellophane
dried wasabi green peas
dried coconut cream or milk
Malaysian seasoning pack spice (see picture on web site)
preparation
at home: Place separate groups of ingredients in separate zip lock bags. If making Tom Yum, place paste in small container.
at camp: Boil water and cover first group of ingredients, let sit while preparing the broth. Mix coconut powder with small amount of water, add to more boiling water. Do the same with the seasoning mix. Taste and adjust amounts. Add soaked veggies and noodles. Allow it to return to boil and turn stove off. Cover and let it sit 3-5 minute. Serve.
variations:
tom yum
instead of dried coconut milk and Malaysian seasonings, use prepared tom yum base (see picture at web site) -
Place 3 cups of water per 2 tablespoons of tom yom and boil, then add soaked veggies, add noodles, cover for 3-5 minutes and serve.
Miso soup
instead of dried coconut milk and Malaysian seasonings, use light miso paste.
I also like to add fresh ginger to this, sautéed in a little oil. I start sautéing the ginger, add water, the rest of the ingredients, when softened add miso and turn heat off.
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Black bean-mole tostadas
ingredients
instant black bean flakes (whole foods sells them in bulk for about $ 4 a lb, which will feed a large crowd)
masa harina about 8 oz or prepared corn tortillas, fresh (for shorter b/p trips).
mole sauce, backpacking version
8 oz combination of black dried moles: poblanos, anchos, mulattos and negros
optional – chiles chipotles 2-3 this is going to give it a smoky taste but also HOT!!!
1 tablespoon cocoa
small amounts (1/2 tsp) cinnamon and ground cumin
2 garlic cloves
½ pack sun dried tomatoes
½ cup roasted almond slivers
a little salt
Olive oil for frying tortillas
preparation
at home:
Toast chiles in comal or cast iron skillet. Careful not to burn them, just toast them until they release the wonderful aroma. Grind them in coffee grinder along grind all mole ingredients (yes, add the garlic in with dry ingredients) it will make a coarse crumbly powder – put in zip lock bag. Pack dried instant black beans separately. Place either masa or corn tortillas in separate bags. Pack olive oil in separate bottle.
at camp:
Boil water and cover bean flakes, will thicken after it sits a few minutes. Add additional hot water if too thick. Add boiling water to mole powder until it makes a thick sauce, cover and let sit. Add additional water if too thick.
In separate skillet, heat prepared corn tortillas.
If making tortillas from scratch, add cold filtered water to masa until you have the right consistency. Form into tortillas by first making a 1 inch ball and then flattening it. Yes, this is tricky at camp (use a couple of extra zip lock bags). Fry the tortillas in skillet on both sides.
Now the tostadas are ready to assemble. Place black beans on tortillas and top with mole sauce
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Couscous with pistachios, scallions and apricots
ingredients
1/2 cup couscous
veggie instant broth of choice (to make 3/4 or 1 cup)
1/4 cup dried currants, soaked in
hot water for 15 minutes and drained or/and dried apricots
1/3 cup thinly sliced scallion
1/4 cup shelled pistachio nuts,
toasted lightly and chopped fine
1 tablespoon minced fresh parsley leaves
1-1/2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
a pinch of cinnamon
3 tablespoons olive oil
salt to taste
preparation
at home: fill small bottles of olive oil and lemon juice. Toast pistachios and place them with the couscous, along with the cinnamon and put in zip lock bag. Place currants and apricots in separate bag. Mince scallions and parsley very finely and blend with olive oil to make a paste – this will act to keep the herbs fresh – pack in small container or double zip lock bag. For a long trip, or if it gets hot, you might have to use dried herbs....or serve this the first night if you insist on fresh herbs.
at camp: heat broth and add a little of the olive oil, when it starts to boil add couscous. Take off heat and cover, let stand 5 minutes. Break up any lumps, add rest of the ingredients and toss.
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Fri, May 5, 2006 - 11:03 AMOMG! Cabrita I gotta go backpacking with you. Your recipes sound great!
OK, here is one for the guys.... Not that guys can't assemble great meals....
1 package Barilla dried Cheese Tortolini
1 package Country Gravy Mix
Lemon Pepper to taste
Guys, follow the directions on the packages and mix the ingredients together. Add lemon pepper. All you need is water to make this work. A little garlic or onion powder are also good addtions.
This was a purely accidental discovery on my part, but it's a filling meal for two hungry backpackers that is low cost, fairly lightweight, and very easy to prepare.
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Fri, May 5, 2006 - 3:11 PMWell, this doesn't really address all your criteria, but I think these are the only unusual things that come to mind.
I am always suprised that more people don't bring hard-boiled eggs. I pick them up for free from the dumpster before I leave, hardboil them at home and leave them in the shells when I pack them. I have only kept them for the first 3 mornings, but they are such a great source of, well everything for those 3.
I also took some Silk creamer on my last 6 day trip. On a few of the hotter days, I put it in the creek to keep it cold. It lasted the whole 5 days that it took for me to finish it. -
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Wed, August 24, 2011 - 1:47 PMHere are some recipes from my website that my family enjoys: greensim.com/lemonade/campfood.html There is also a link to dehydrator recipes there (fruit leathers, veggies, etc.).
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trail salads
Fri, May 5, 2006 - 10:52 PMThese take a little prep time to dehydrate, but worthwhile. I found them onthe Backpacker.com site.
Packer's Cole Slaw
1 tablespoon noniodized or canning salt
1 cup water
1/2 cabbage, washed and finely shredded
1 stalk celery, shredded
1 carrot, shredded
1/2 green pepper, shredded
3/4 cup vinegar
1 teaspoon mustard seed
1/2 teaspoon celery seed
1 cup sugar
At home: Dissolve the salt in the water in a large bowl, then soak the cabbage in the salt water for an hour. Add the next three ingredients and let them soak for another 20 minutes, then drain and rinse thoroughly. Meanwhile, combine the vinegar, mustard seed, celery seed, and sugar in a pan and bring it to a boil, stirring until the sugar is dissolved. Pour the dressing over the rinsed vegetable mixture in the bowl and marinate, covered, for at least 24 hours before dehydrating. Divide the dried slaw into plastic bags (1/3 cup of dried salad is adequate as a side dish for one person).
In camp: Add an equal amount of water to each portion of salad (1/3 cup of water to 1/3 cup of salad) and allow it to reconstitute for at least half an hour. Yield: 3 1/2 to 4 cups (10 to 12 side dishes).
Carrot-Pineapple Crunch
1 large lemon's peel, grated
1 cup sugar
1/2 cup lemon juice
4 large carrots, peeled and shredded
1 8-ounce can crushed pineapple, drained
1 tablespoon toasted slivered almonds
At home: Stir the lemon zest and sugar into the lemon juice in a pan and simmer gently until the sugar is dissolved. Put the carrots and pineapple in a bowl, pour the juice mixture over them, cover the bowl, and marinate for at least 24 hours before drying. Package the dried mix in zipper-lock bags (1/3 cup of dried salad will make side dishes for two people). Package the almonds separately.
In camp: Add an equal amount of water to each portion of salad (1/3 cup of water to 1/3 cup of salad) and allow to reconstitute for at least half an hour, then add almonds. Yield: 1 cup (6 side dishes).
Oriental Cabbage Salad
1/4 cup vinegar
1 cup sugar
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup vegetable oil
1/4 cup soy sauce
1 large Chinese cabbage, shredded
1 bunch scallions, white bulb discarded, chopped
1 teaspoon toasted sesame seeds
1 tablespoon toasted slivered almonds
At home: Mix the vinegar, sugar, salt, oil, and soy sauce in a bowl and stir until the sugar is dissolved. Place the cabbage and scallions in a bowl, pour the marinade over them, and toss to thoroughly coat the vegetables. Marinate for 24 to 36 hours, then dehydrate. Package a single serving (1/4 cup) of the dried mix in each zipper-lock bag. Pack the sesame seeds and almonds in a separate bag.
In camp: Add 1/8 cup of water to 1/4 cup of dried mix and let it soak for at least half an hour. Sprinkle with the sesame seeds and almonds just before serving. Yield: 1 1/2 to 2 cups (6 to 8 side dishes).
Zucchini-Apple Salad
1/4 cup lemon juice
1 tablespoon minced fresh ginger
2 tablespoons sugar
1 large zucchini, shredded
1 large apple, cored and shredded
At home: Combine the lemon juice, ginger, and sugar in a bowl and stir until the sugar dissolves. Place the zucchini and apple in another bowl, pour the juice mixture over them, cover, and marinate for at least 24 hours before dehydrating. Package a single serving (1/3 cup) of the dried salad in each zipper-lock bag.
In camp: Add 1/3 cup of water to 1/3 cup of salad and allow it to reconstitute for at least half an hour. Yield: 1 to 1 1/3 cups (4 side dishes). -
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items normally available in regular supermarkets
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 2:49 PMWow, thanks these sound good. I wish i had a food dehydrator. Any recommendations for one? that does not take up too much space?
Here are a few other items that are good:
Instant powdered eggs (not always at supermarkets, but RIE has them again)
Instant mashed potatoes. these can be spiced up with different seasonings.
Instant or quick cooking pastas (very large variety in most supermarkets).
Instant powdered non fat milk
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Re: items normally available in regular supermarkets
Wed, May 31, 2006 - 5:55 PMYou can dehydrate some fruits and veggies if you have the old fashioned type of stove that has a pilot light in the oven. Just spread sliced whatever on a vented rack and allow to dry for a day or two in your UN-lit oven. The important thing is to have adequate air circulation under and around the food so that it dries evenly and efficiently. The pilot light provides just enough warmth to create a very dry environment, adequate to dessicate many foods. Just be sure to slice things really thin and it works fine.
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reviews of dehydrators
Tue, June 6, 2006 - 9:29 PMwww.backpackgeartest.org/revie...ators/
www.target.com/gp/detail....742-3244617
Also, ask around your friends. Lots of people have one in their closet that they don't use much. Maybe you can borrow one to use for tmaking backpacker meals. -
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Re: reviews of dehydrators
Wed, June 7, 2006 - 4:00 PMCabrita - I have a food dehydrator that I don't use in my garage somewhere..... it's your's if we can manage to connect. Thanks Candace for the memory tickler!
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Re: dehydrators
Wed, August 24, 2011 - 1:45 PMA convection oven at its lowest temperature is perfect--the fan aids in air circulation and you can fit lots, plus it is also your main at-home appliance, so no extra storage. There are also DIY solar dehydrator plans that a Google search will uncover. Beware of cheap plastic models--we had one melt when set to the lowest setting, and even before that, it gave off noxious fumes.
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Re: items normally available in regular supermarkets
Thu, August 25, 2011 - 9:13 AMAdd: instant soup mix, "side dishes", instant rice, orange lentils (these cook quickly), tomato paste--extra thick in tubes (usually in the international aisle), Gatorade powder, TVP, instant hummus mix, re-fried beans mix (no longer available near me unfortunately!)
I actually have a page on this too on my website (yeah, I know this is getting old): greensim.com/lemonade/store.html
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Re: trail salads
Fri, September 16, 2011 - 11:00 AMI'd rather eat fresh greens while out in the backcountry.
When I know I'll be out for more than a week, I take my seed sprouter along.
My seed sprouter was ordered through a healthfood store - and all I ordered were the three plastic mesh lids. I searched around until I found a one pint plastic jar the the lids fit. I opted for plastic to save weight, but the lids fit on a standard-size Mason or Ball jar.
Letting the seeds soak overnight is easy. Rinsing the seeds three or four times a day might be a little more difficult if you're in arid country. If water is in really short supply, you can drink the rinse water - it's a little odd, but won't kill you. The seeds really don't need much maintenance. Add water and they grow. Let the water sit too long and they rot. It's pretty simple.
Once they start growing, they can grow very quickly. If you get tired of eating them, that's good - it means you're getting enough fresh greens. Finish eating them anyway (unless you can trade them off to other backpackers).
As for what kind of seeds, pack a variety if you're doing distance. Better to have three one-ounce packages than one three-ounce package. Any of the following will work, and I'm sure there are others that work also. I especially liked the Radish sprouts - they were amazingly peppery!
Alfalfa
Lentil
Mung
Radish
Soy
Sunflower (hulled)
Wheat
Up near Muir Hut, I once traded radish sprouts for a peanut butter & jelly sandwich and a handfull of hard candies. The guys I traded with had been out for five days and were just starting to crave greens. It was a great trade for me, because I was running low on food and wasn't able to resupply until I got to Muir Trail Ranch. That was the closest I ever cut it - I ran out of food a half day away from my supply cache.
If you do get a backpacking sprouter rigged up somehow, practice with it a few times before you head out to the trailhead. That will give you the confidence to do it well while you've gone walkabout.
I have no doubt that the seed sprouter was one of the best pieces of gear I took with me on my long trip.
Enjoy!
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Wed, June 7, 2006 - 7:14 AMHave you tried MREs (Meals Ready to Eat)? They're military rations that are quite good. You can get a case (12) from a regular army surplus store for around $70. You can get it at $60 if you haggle.
Inside, there are a dozen unique meals with four of them vegetarian. The meals truly come with EVERYTHING you'll need; they're complete, packed with calories and balanced. The flameless heater is so powerful it's like having a little particle accelerator in a plastic bag -- it gets HOT!
Pros:
They're cheap, easy, and clean. After you're done all you're left with is trash that is highly compressible. You don't have to wash anything after. You can even chuck your spoon because every single one comes with a sturdy new one. Your pack is lighter after you down one of these. You won't even need your stove to heat it up.
Cons:
The wet-towlettes that come with them smell terrible. I can only assume that they smell like feet because of the tactical advantage of smelling bad in the battlefield. -
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Wed, June 7, 2006 - 1:27 PMThanks for the input guys!
Jason, how much does each mri meal weigh? I am packing for a 16 day trip so I need the lightest. They will do OK as far as shelf life I am sure. Also, having served in the US armed forces a long long time ago, I rather stay away from c-rations....they bring bad memories for some reason....and also, what do I do with the 8 meals that are not vegetarian? I will consider it if the weight is good, but I got the impresion that these are not dehydrated meals, just in pouches or cans? Fine for a couple of days, but 16 days? I am trying to preserve the integrity of my hip bones.... -
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Wed, June 7, 2006 - 2:37 PMMRE's weigh around 2 pounds+ each...
Short trips would work, but you can do so much better and have a choice in the matter of what you'd like to eat by just bringing store bought food, picked out especially for yourself, in my opinion...
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Wed, June 7, 2006 - 4:24 PM"how much does each mri meal weigh?"
1 to 1.5 pounds. I just weighed what I have left.
"They will do OK as far as shelf life I am sure"
Definitely.
"Also, having served in the US armed forces a long long time ago, I rather stay away from c-rations....they bring bad memories for some reason"
I was a Navy SEAL. Hooyah!
"what do I do with the 8 meals that are not vegetarian"
I recommend eating them. You can go to an Army Surplus store and pick only vegetarians out of a number of cases from which you can form a case. You can still haggle the price -- always haggle the price.
"I will consider it if the weight is good"
Well, they're 1 to 1.5 pounds, but you'll never be hungry, and it's a no brainer. Nothing to clean, no obscure dish shapes to contend with. You can open them up and take with you only certain pieces of it. Much of what's in the MREs are things you may be able to do without. And when you open the main MRE pouch, the food inside are still sealed so you can easily mix and match without compromising shelf life.
"I got the impresion that these are not dehydrated meals"
They're not dehydrated; they're meals ready to eat.
"in pouches or cans"
Pouches that are very collapsible and light after use.
"Fine for a couple of days, but 16 days?"
I understand. Just remember you'll go there heavy, but you'll get lighter after every meal. Chances are you'll need only 1 per day because it's really hearty. Also, you may need even less because you don't have to eat an MRE everyday. You have to remember that you'll need water more than you'll need food.
"I am trying to preserve the integrity of my hip bones"
I know, that's why I take it easy on sex now. (o:`,
hehehe
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Thu, June 8, 2006 - 10:15 PMWow these are really great recipes- I must make more effort.
Fuel for the weight I've always brought fruit Newtons.
Lunch is pepperoni and cheese and either bagels for the first few days or crackers hopefully protected from smashing. I have to confess a poor inspiration on breakfast for instant oatmeal or cream of wheat. Dinners Knor soups are a great variety of flavor option to add to dehydrated potatoes. (I picked up a nick name 'spuds' there for awhile :-) Spanish rice and dehydrated beans. Lipton makes those side noodle dishes light and filling.
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Fri, June 9, 2006 - 6:45 AMEverything you mentioned is contained in 1 MRE. (o:`,
Continuous expenditure of energy and destruction of muscle cells like hiking nourished only by what you said, it seems there isn't enough proteins in there to become building blocks during your self-repair time (sleep). There's a lot of sugars and carbohydrates which will definitely provide you energy, but it seems imbalanced. Although it seems I'm indirectly pointing out the benefits of MREs, I'm truly curious; this is something I would like to learn. Does one not need proteins so much while on outdoor adventures like this?
I have actually experimented at home eating only bagels or bread for dinner. When I wake up the next morning, I have this bottomless hunger, and then I really eat in the morning, and remember, at home I'm largely sedentary. I need to do more research. -
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Fri, June 9, 2006 - 7:06 AMI'm also trying to figure out what is the best way to carry the least amount of food and its associated hassles while getting the most nourishment. MREs are definitely not something to take on a solo hike for 16 days, although one can get pieces from them easily and mix and match them to get lighter, but they're still big and heavy.
If you're going 16 days, is it a good assumption that one will need about 16 pounds of food? You can probably carry less if you have resupply stops every 3 to 4 days. I don't know how the logistics on this works without actually living off the land like hunting game.
On my first ever backpacking trip, John and Widget, the gracious and very generous hosts that they are, fed a dozen wild humans -- in the wild. In that time I brought 4 MREs, I ate only 2. A third one was shared by two people, and that stopped their hunger, and then the fourth one, I opened to steal a spoon from. In the end, 1 of 4 MREs went uneaten and this was a 4 day trip.
This isn't really scientific because all of this just fell into place this way, and my pack was heavy as a yacht. This also coupled with ensuring I ate little so I didn't poop so much.
I hope, if I ever go on another trip with Widget and John that I get to see how they arrange for food. I think they were solely carrying everyone's food, and we had left overs. And we ate like Sultans. I must admit though, I got to carry their packs, and it felt like they put anvils in it. -
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Re: Backpacking food ideas for longer trips - let's share ideas
Wed, August 24, 2011 - 2:28 PMDining solely on MREs for a week, you arent going to use the potty very much. Then suddenly you will poop a big hard football.
Quite a phenomenon......try not to stare at it too long.......
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Re: protein, carbs, etc.
Thu, August 25, 2011 - 9:29 AMProtein is present in most foods. Beans, nuts, seeds, eggs & dairy are good sources, not just meat. Grains, esp. whole grains are also sources of proteins. "Complete" proteins in every meal are not necessary as long as you eat a good variety overall. Don't forget vitamin content--esp. anti-oxidants. A white-flour based carb diet is never a healthy option, but a variety of whole grains, along with beans, nuts & seeds + lots of veggies & fruit is an entirely different thing.
Sugars (simple carbs) are most quickly and readily used, complex carbs take a little longer and proteins take longest to process. Fibre is not an enemy & beats hiking while constipated (different kind of load)! Just keep it in reasonable moderation. -
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Re: protein, carbs, etc.
Mon, September 5, 2011 - 4:20 PMI have been bringing lentils, quinoa, and home-dried ground and cooked sausage on backpacking trips.
Quinoa is a grain that has a higher protein content than other grains.
Regular lentils cook pretty fast,so I include them in my backcountry larder. Not pre-cooked, or anything. I put them in water as I am heating it up to a boil. I let it simmer for ~10 minutes, then take it off the heat and put a cozy made of mylarized bubble wrap (available in sheets at the hardware store.) for another 10 minutes.
More and more, I've been bringing bags of ingredients and spices and decided how I'm combining them while on the trail.
I'll make a curry with dried coconut, onions, cashews,lentils and quinoa, for instance.
Another meal might be made using Mediterranean spices (garlic, sun-dried tomatoes, pine nuts, and basil) couscous, olive oil, cheese (parmesan or maybe some Manchego), and dehydrated sausage.
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Re: protein, carbs, etc.
Wed, September 14, 2011 - 5:34 PMquestion, does anyone dehydrate meat? I'm trying to find a thread but it's not pulling up. I dehydrated carne asada but it tasted like shoe laces. Suggestions?
Oh and another question, when there is a no campfire allowed, how does one cook the fresh grouse to taste tender (I have two jet boils, one cup and pot)? Boiling it didn't do it justice I ruined it basically unless you like the taste of flavored cardboard. Or maybe I boiled too hard and it should have been a simmer? Any suggestions on that?
The Yolla Bolly Wilderness was absolutely perfect but it is just before deer season so I didn't see a single person, woohooo! -
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Re: protein, carbs, etc.
Sat, September 17, 2011 - 10:22 AMThat recipe for tostadas sounded tasty!
Everyone has overlooked the obvious: Potatos. They last for weeks in a pack, can be cooked in dozens of ways or even just boiled with some salt.
If you want to dehydrate meat, then try marinading it in Allegro marinade. They make 3 different flavors, but I like the hot flavor best for jerky. I also am fond of marinating a few pounds of meat in a 1 gal ziploc bag, freezing it solid, and storing in my backpack fridge (really just an insulated lunchbox.)
www.allegromarinade.com/
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Sat, September 17, 2011 - 10:31 AMThank you so much! I'm all over this marinade. Great ideas!
<<And avoid places that prohibit fires.>> hahaa that made me laugh, yes it did suck but I tried to make the best of it :)
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Re: protein, carbs, etc.
Wed, October 5, 2011 - 10:34 PMI haven't overlooked potatoes.
While it would be nice to have some fresh potatoes to eat, potatoes are just too heavy, unless they are in a dried form.
I know lots of people who carry instead potato flakes mixed with other items to give them flavor when reconstituted. -
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Re: protein, carbs, etc.
Sat, October 8, 2011 - 10:19 PMIf you're going to use powdered potatoes, don't forget to take along some powdered butter!
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